From Bottom to top:
1. No.4 Mark 1
2. No.4 Mark 1*
3. No.4 Mark 1/2
4. No.4 Mark 1/3
5. No.4 Mark 2
They all look the same..................don't they?
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Some No.4's in my Collection
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Posts: 184 (01/06/09 17:51:46) The Hunter
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"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most
fools do"
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Posts: 22014 (01/06/09 18:41:45) Black Powder
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Uh huh, can you 'splain the diffs?
M1Garand issued April, 1956, new in wrapper to B.G. Yockey, at Camp Pendleton, California. serial #2774590. Have you seen it? |
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Posts: 6693 (01/06/09 20:07:47) Cold Country
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i can help with the rudimentary comentary he can give you the rifle details that make them special , as all enfeilds are special you know ,
the mkI has a nice little button bolt release near the back of the race , the mkI* lost the button for a nifty and cheap cutout in the race[only made in north america] , the mk1/2 is a conversion of the mkI to mk2 hanging the triger to the receiver , the mk1/3 is similar conversion of the mkI* , and the mk2 is the original upgrade from the forearm mounted trigger of the traditional enfeilds to the receiver mounted version of the late rifles , lets see what neil has for unit/use markings and such , thats what makes them truely special , oh and no they dont all look alike to some of us - i will alow that markings mean a lot and one must inspect them closely , so ---on that note ---my shipping address is .........
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Posts: 22019 (01/06/09 20:10:03) Black Powder
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HUH??? My head is spinning!
M1Garand issued April, 1956, new in wrapper to B.G. Yockey, at Camp Pendleton, California. serial #2774590. Have you seen it? |
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Posts: 6694 (01/06/09 20:13:24) Cold Country
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i can understand that , mine does that with your mosins and mausers , not to mention the Italian rifles ,
i do need a decent 1/2 & 1/3 one day to round out my no4s , but ive yet to see one id take home to the family , these are really nice examples and im glad he posted them , |
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Posts: 14 (01/07/09 08:01:14) |
i like em!!!! i have had many # 4's but my favorite is the Long Branch....had a beauty, traded it away,,,,,, sad!!!!!!
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Posts: 6700 (01/07/09 11:21:58) Cold Country
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hope he comes back and gives details , i wonder if his mkI* & mk1/3 are longbranch or savage or both ?
id like to find a savage mk1/3 i think , and a BSA or EFD mk1/2 , to round out my no4s |
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Posts: 15 (01/07/09 14:09:01) |
the bottom one is a Long Branch. you can tell by the grooves in the upper hand guard....
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Posts: 22024 (01/07/09 14:47:06) Black Powder
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My Savage rifles (2) also have the grooves in them?
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Posts: 6706 (01/07/09 17:25:30) Cold Country
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".....the bottom one is a Long Branch. you can tell by the grooves in the upper hand guard.... "
not necessarily - my FAZ rifles have those too , this was not a limited procedure , but it was dropped for production reasons durring the war , my two FAZ & two longbranch - with grooves , 
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Posts: 185 (01/07/09 17:54:27) The Hunter
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Mike explained the differences perfectly. manufacturers are from bottom to top:
1. BSA No.4 Mk 1 2. Longbranch No.4 Mk1* 3. Maltby No.4 mk 1 converted at Fazakerley to No.4 Mk1/2 4. Savage No.4 Mk 1* converted at Fazakerley to No.4 Mk 1/3 5. Fazakerley No.4 Mk 2
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most
fools do"
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Posts: 22027 (01/07/09 18:45:14) Black Powder
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I wonder if my Savage rifles are "converted"? What do I look for?
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Amatikulu |
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Posts: 186 (01/08/09 03:46:35) The Hunter
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I'll take some pis of what to look for once I get a chance
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most
fools do"
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yockey5 |
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Posts: 22031 (01/08/09 08:26:23) Black Powder
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Thanks Amat!
M1Garand issued April, 1956, new in wrapper to B.G. Yockey, at Camp Pendleton, California. serial #2774590. Have you seen it? |
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Posts: 1893 (01/11/09 04:18:25) Corkster
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The LB No 4 Mk1* has a different bolt holding location, up front not back by the rear sight.
Not sure of the exact name, the groove you turn the bolt head into and out off. Cork |
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Amatikulu |
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Posts: 190 (01/11/09 04:51:39) The Hunter
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MasterCork, - its called a bolt rail cut out. Found on Savage and Longbranch No.4's.
"Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain, and most
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- Want to Sell
- Want to Buy
- The Picture Window
- Shotguns, Old & New.
- Lever Action, Cowboy Action, and Black Powder
- Small Bore Rifles
- U.S. Military Rifles
- The Mosin Nagant
- Japanese Rifles
- The Enfields
- French Rifles
- Italian rifles
- Bayonets, Trench, Hunting knives, & Militaria
- Full and Semi Auto Military
- Hand guns, Foreign and domestic.
- Austro-Hungarian M95 & Variants
- Swiss Rifle & the Ross
- Military Mausers
- Hunting & Fishing
- Weapons cleaning & maint.
- The 'Reloader' & Ammo Forum
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- World War I
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